On the county clerk's web page I found this interesting notation on a court case involving RJ -NOTICE OF INTENT TO PROFFER PSYCHIATRIC EVIDENCE What does that mean?
You can google the phrase but considering it is a closed court case you do not even know if it is indeed who you think it is and that can lead to dangerous speculation. It was closed for a reason and I am going to leave well enough alone. If it were open...
That ole plagiarism bug seems mighty contagious. A lengthy letter from Maloney to SCATS has been copied and pasted (minus the "Dear SCATS" part and first paragraph) without permission. Guess where? Your first two guesses don't count.
@ 5:29 pm I had to laugh as my second guess was correct. That same person and compay were just commenting the other day about other blogs and the cuttn and pasting thst goes on.
To 9:26AM ~~ I don't have the time to be THAT many personalities on top of trying to be Coffeeready, Radaronline, Greecemonkey, Joe Moscato, BS, DS, CL and a whole host of other imaginary "enemies" :)
Since copying and pasting seems to be OK to do when under the guise of furthering discussion (as per her response over there - what, is a link to the material harder to copy and paste than multiple comments?) maybe this blog host here can copy and paste all of the posts from over there to further the discussion of those topics. Since, you know, not all submitted comments get published over there. I mean, no one over there should have a problem with that, right?
Since copying and pasting seems to be OK to do when under the guise of furthering discussion (as per her response over there - what, is a link to the material harder to copy and paste than multiple comments?) maybe this blog host here can copy and paste all of the posts from over there to further the discussion of those topics. Since, you know, not all submitted comments get published over there. I mean, no one over there should have a problem with that, right?
I wonder if it has occured to them that they're probably hurting the people whose campaigns they want to support. But that would require a conscience I guess.
To 12:31PM ~~ Or, if you like, feel free to bring the discussion back to where it originated before it was stolen: MaloneysLetterToSCATS
That's twice in under a week someone's letter was published without the author's permission on that site. And they pretend to rally around law enforcement, very hypocritical.
To me it is not even about permission. That copier would have let anyone believe that was a letter to her...until she was called out. I understand her not wanting to give SCATS free press but her actions are very shady. Oh and 12:31...I did not need a sarcasm font to see what you meant. A comment so nice it posted twice! But yeah-no they give me too much material to have to resort to copy/paste.
I agree normally a link back and a one line props to the owner is enough. but not when you spew about others copying. hold yourself to what you claim is your own standard, woman! you deserve to be called out. to borrow one of your favorite phrases to people you do not like - and hay i am giving the source credit, which is more than you do - you probably do not even live in greece.
To LRB ~~ What you don't realize is she's criticized me about sharing things without getting permission first (second hand allegations on her part). Apparently she has changed her mind about that being a problem, so I just might decide to share a few of her email. They contain some real doozies.
Let's update the count now ... plagiarism, copyright infringements, lying, stealing, malicious libel, defamation of character and supporting others as an accessory when they do the same things EVEN AFTER she is told there's an issue. Not bothering to correct the record is damning. She has two threads that should be very useful to me in the future ... so I copied them for safe keeping ;)
PS ~~ FYI, 12:31 wasn't me in case that's what you thought.
in all honesty. this particular issue is a tempest in a teapot.
Everyone who reads scats blog knows where the letter came from. They were obviously Maloney's words. This is a case of not crediting the source of a quote.
Plagiarism occurs when you use somebody's words or writing as they were your own, such as if you give a speech using someone's text or if you submit a college paper you bought or copied as your original work.
But even then in this case who cares it is just a blog.
To 4:46PM ~~ She has a track record regarding plagiarism that came to light when she was at the D&C .. it precedes her days on her own BLOG. And when you try to "out" someone and then find out all the nasty comments were aimed at the WRONG PERSON, don't you think those comments and the references to that person should be removed as an act of decency, if nothing else?
Yeah, when are you going to share those SCATS? I thought the only reason I started this blog was to post those. At least that was what I was accused of.
She's taken on the personality characteristics of her foe - John Auberger. She rules without discussion. She takes credit for everything "good." She surrounded herself with "yes" people. Need I say more?
@SCATS - "To 4:46PM ~~ She has a track record regarding plagiarism that came to light when she was at the D&C .. it precedes her days on her own BLOG."
When did you change your mind from this on your site:
"SCATS said... To 10:32PM ~~ I believe political pressures were involved, regardless of what RJ was told the complaint was about. To be honest, I was a bit surprised she didn't get into hot water over the political expression in her writings sooner than this. 8/10/2009 11:06 PM"
You're not talking outta both sides now, are you? Ooops!
To 2:09PM ~~ Nope, I'm not. At the point in time that I made that statement, it was AFTER RJ said she was done with the D&C, AFTER the controversial postings were removed from their website and based largely on what RJ told me via email. I trusted that it was the whole truth. It wasn't.
Sorry SCATS, since you never did a follow up on your site sharing the truth, it leads people to believe you still think it was politically motivated. Do you think it's responsible to leave the lie on your site?
Actually, that's not fair so don't answer that. I'm putting you on the spot. Of course you think it's responsible or else you would have replaced it with the truth.
To 9:17AM ~~ I've already explained it was true at the time it was written. Why would I want to "follow up" on the revelation of all her character flaws? I don't think that would be responsible or "decent", given that she chose to leave the D&C anyway. And, I think most of my readers are astute enough to understand what transpired. I'm sorry if you aren't.
I bet she chose to leave the d&c after they wanted a real apology posted. instead of admitting she did something wrong, she ran away. of course it was the republicans fault that she plagiarized though. we must not forget that.
To 2:32PM ~~ "True facts?" As opposed to the untrue "facts" her site?
Nice attempt at a cheap shot. What I'm "admitting" is that after her character flaws became the issue it did, I chose not to take up the controversy she started elsewhere as my "cause"... until later, when I saw a certain someone making obviously false claims on TV news, on my BLOG and on her own.
By the way, for someone who claimed to be tracking IP addresses weeks ago, you would think she would have Coffeeready, Radaronline, Greecemonkey, SCATS, DS, BS, CL, Joe Moscato, LeRogueBlogger and all of the people she says are me trying to post onto her BLOG sorted out by now. She doesn't.
LMAO @ 9:17am! You wanted Scatsipoo to call out Beccabear about all her untruths to correct the record? With friends like you no wonder Beccabear has troubles.
I don't like deleting things but that seems like a post made for shock's sake or to just trash talk with no basis. If you don't like her views or her behavior, I don't care if you point them out and give your opinion on them. But where does a statement like that fit in? It doesn't. So I doubt I'll be keeping posts like that around in the future.
I know it may seem hypocritical to delete things like that when I am tryng to foster a free expression environment. But I do have to measure malicious gossip against that.
Are you calling Dan Maloney a drunk? That's not even called for and has no business here.
12:08's comment is scummy too but unsurprising. You find alot of garbage like that on SCATS' blog. 12:08 must be a regular over there.
SCATS is ok with it though. He's all about posting the rumor/lie and disregarding the truth no matter who it hurts. Probably why so many think SCATS is a POS.
Notice how SCAMS ran from reporting Joe M's snotsnorting press conference?
Looked like the room was definitely crouded down there at the lodge, must have been at least 10 people.
I loved Joe explaining why he ran for School Board. Seemed to have a little problem keeping his son and granddaughter straight as he related the story.
DAMN, Joe even said he didn't think the Baloney Slate making a clean sweep was a good idea.
To the Night Poster at 2:53 a.m. - I definitely think you need a little sleep. Your postings have absolutely no content except your mean-spirited jabs. Let's talk about issues (I suspect you don't have any) and important things, not your sickening stabs that prove nothing except to paint you for the ignorant jerk you are.
Joey commanded & formed the Marine Div, Youth Div, and Tactical as I recall. As previously said, Joey is one hell of a street cop with the talent to get things accomplished.
Joey is also honest enough to tell the truth, such as his statement he and Baloney don't know how Town Government works. As evidenced by statements coming from Baloney's mouth Baloney has never bothered to read NYS Municipal laws or learn how they regulate the powers of elected officials. Baloney should be fairly adept at Union law, but his statements indicate he falls short there too, or doesn't know most Greece employees are Union members.
Joe would be a good candidate for Supervisor, and will be a major pain in the ass to Hairburger if elected to Town Council. Joe will at least learn the job. Baloney will be an empty suit. Joe even said total victory for the Democraps might be a bad thing. 1 party control leads to tyrany.
The funding of this race by the Monroe County Democraps alone indicates the slate of candidates is a joke assembled to do nothing beyond embarras Hairburger & his munchkins. $400 to fund a Town Council race is an insult to Greece residents. Democraps have ridiculous candidates who aren't funded.
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On the county clerk's web page I found this interesting notation on a court case involving RJ -NOTICE OF INTENT TO PROFFER PSYCHIATRIC EVIDENCE
What does that mean?
You can google the phrase but considering it is a closed court case you do not even know if it is indeed who you think it is and that can lead to dangerous speculation. It was closed for a reason and I am going to leave well enough alone. If it were open...
there once was blog named monroe
whose wit was exceedingly slow
their thinking so hazy
all opponents are crazy
while ROBUTRAD rings down their show.
That ole plagiarism bug seems mighty contagious. A lengthy letter from Maloney to SCATS has been copied and pasted (minus the "Dear SCATS" part and first paragraph) without permission. Guess where? Your first two guesses don't count.
tsk tsk.
oh and 11:02am, the blog body didn't post. But I guess it wasn't needed anyways!
-NOTICE OF INTENT TO PROFFER PSYCHIATRIC EVIDENCE means to plead insanity.
@ 5:29 pm I had to laugh as my second guess was correct. That same person and compay were just commenting the other day about other blogs and the cuttn and pasting thst goes on.
Maybe the person who copied and pasted from SCATS IS SCATS! LMFAO! No one could claim those 2 are one and the same but it is an amusing thought.
to 10:55 she must have confused Psychic with Psychiatric
To 9:26AM ~~ Bite your tongue! LOL
Imitation is the highest form of flattery ... unless plagiarism ... and psychosis ... are involved.
Copyright laws apply to online material, too.
Bite your tongue indeed!
To 9:26AM ~~ I don't have the time to be THAT many personalities on top of trying to be Coffeeready, Radaronline, Greecemonkey, Joe Moscato, BS, DS, CL and a whole host of other imaginary "enemies" :)
Since copying and pasting seems to be OK to do when under the guise of furthering discussion (as per her response over there - what, is a link to the material harder to copy and paste than multiple comments?) maybe this blog host here can copy and paste all of the posts from over there to further the discussion of those topics. Since, you know, not all submitted comments get published over there. I mean, no one over there should have a problem with that, right?
Since copying and pasting seems to be OK to do when under the guise of furthering discussion (as per her response over there - what, is a link to the material harder to copy and paste than multiple comments?) maybe this blog host here can copy and paste all of the posts from over there to further the discussion of those topics. Since, you know, not all submitted comments get published over there. I mean, no one over there should have a problem with that, right?
Yeah LeRogue, just make this RJs second blog LMAO I thought this was supposed to be for fun, no?
I wonder if it has occured to them that they're probably hurting the people whose campaigns they want to support. But that would require a conscience I guess.
To 12:31PM ~~ Or, if you like, feel free to bring the discussion back to where it originated before it was stolen:
MaloneysLetterToSCATS
That's twice in under a week someone's letter was published without the author's permission on that site. And they pretend to rally around law enforcement, very hypocritical.
To me it is not even about permission. That copier would have let anyone believe that was a letter to her...until she was called out. I understand her not wanting to give SCATS free press but her actions are very shady. Oh and 12:31...I did not need a sarcasm font to see what you meant. A comment so nice it posted twice! But yeah-no they give me too much material to have to resort to copy/paste.
I agree normally a link back and a one line props to the owner is enough. but not when you spew about others copying. hold yourself to what you claim is your own standard, woman! you deserve to be called out. to borrow one of your favorite phrases to people you do not like - and hay i am giving the source credit, which is more than you do - you probably do not even live in greece.
To LRB ~~ What you don't realize is she's criticized me about sharing things without getting permission first (second hand allegations on her part). Apparently she has changed her mind about that being a problem, so I just might decide to share a few of her email. They contain some real doozies.
Let's update the count now ... plagiarism, copyright infringements, lying, stealing, malicious libel, defamation of character and supporting others as an accessory when they do the same things EVEN AFTER she is told there's an issue. Not bothering to correct the record is damning. She has two threads that should be very useful to me in the future ... so I copied them for safe keeping ;)
PS ~~ FYI, 12:31 wasn't me in case that's what you thought.
in all honesty. this particular issue is a tempest in a teapot.
Everyone who reads scats blog knows where the letter came from. They were obviously Maloney's words.
This is a case of not crediting the source of a quote.
Plagiarism occurs when you use somebody's words or writing as they were your own, such as if you give a speech using someone's text or if you submit a college paper you bought or copied as your original work.
But even then in this case who cares it is just a blog.
To 4:46PM ~~ She has a track record regarding plagiarism that came to light when she was at the D&C .. it precedes her days on her own BLOG. And when you try to "out" someone and then find out all the nasty comments were aimed at the WRONG PERSON, don't you think those comments and the references to that person should be removed as an act of decency, if nothing else?
Yeah, when are you going to share those SCATS? I thought the only reason I started this blog was to post those. At least that was what I was accused of.
Did someone think you were 12:31? I did not.
To LRB ~~ I wasn't sure what you thought when you mentioned the sarcasm font ;)
Well, I'm not sure yet if I'd rather print those letters here, or conduct a poll on SCATS about elderberries and who they smell like LMAO :D
I flipped over some of those red, white and blue ribbons she hung up and down Dewey Avenue and they were stamped "Made in China".
Say no more.
She's taken on the personality characteristics of her foe - John Auberger. She rules without discussion. She takes credit for everything "good." She surrounded herself with "yes" people. Need I say more?
To 7:54PM ~~ OMG you've scored a bullseye with that observation!!
@SCATS - "To 4:46PM ~~ She has a track record regarding plagiarism that came to light when she was at the D&C .. it precedes her days on her own BLOG."
When did you change your mind from this on your site:
"SCATS said...
To 10:32PM ~~ I believe political pressures were involved, regardless of what RJ was told the complaint was about. To be honest, I was a bit surprised she didn't get into hot water over the political expression in her writings sooner than this.
8/10/2009 11:06 PM"
You're not talking outta both sides now, are you? Ooops!
To 2:09PM ~~ Nope, I'm not. At the point in time that I made that statement, it was AFTER RJ said she was done with the D&C, AFTER the controversial postings were removed from their website and based largely on what RJ told me via email. I trusted that it was the whole truth. It wasn't.
I love the comments about Yippee Skippy I have my lawn sign up!
How do you put up a lawn sign when you live in an apartment?
Sorry SCATS, since you never did a follow up on your site sharing the truth, it leads people to believe you still think it was politically motivated. Do you think it's responsible to leave the lie on your site?
Actually, that's not fair so don't answer that. I'm putting you on the spot. Of course you think it's responsible or else you would have replaced it with the truth.
To 9:17AM ~~ I've already explained it was true at the time it was written. Why would I want to "follow up" on the revelation of all her character flaws? I don't think that would be responsible or "decent", given that she chose to leave the D&C anyway. And, I think most of my readers are astute enough to understand what transpired. I'm sorry if you aren't.
I bet she chose to leave the d&c after they wanted a real apology posted. instead of admitting she did something wrong, she ran away. of course it was the republicans fault that she plagiarized though. we must not forget that.
SCATS, admitting that you write posts before knowing the true facts surrounding an issue is the first step to recovery. Good for you.
To 2:32PM ~~ "True facts?" As opposed to the untrue "facts" her site?
Nice attempt at a cheap shot. What I'm "admitting" is that after her character flaws became the issue it did, I chose not to take up the controversy she started elsewhere as my "cause"... until later, when I saw a certain someone making obviously false claims on TV news, on my BLOG and on her own.
By the way, for someone who claimed to be tracking IP addresses weeks ago, you would think she would have Coffeeready, Radaronline, Greecemonkey, SCATS, DS, BS, CL, Joe Moscato, LeRogueBlogger and all of the people she says are me trying to post onto her BLOG sorted out by now. She doesn't.
What does that tell you?
3:05PM is my posting.
LMAO @ 9:17am! You wanted Scatsipoo to call out Beccabear about all her untruths to correct the record? With friends like you no wonder Beccabear has troubles.
7:18 PM -
I don't like deleting things but that seems like a post made for shock's sake or to just trash talk with no basis. If you don't like her views or her behavior, I don't care if you point them out and give your opinion on them. But where does a statement like that fit in? It doesn't. So I doubt I'll be keeping posts like that around in the future.
I know it may seem hypocritical to delete things like that when I am tryng to foster a free expression environment. But I do have to measure malicious gossip against that.
To LRB ~~ As outrageous as that contention is, I would hit delete ASAP if this were my BLOG. Just my opinion...
I am thinking you may be right. I wanted my reply to be understood which is why I left it there.
It also crossed my mind that it may have been planted there to give someone a reason to cry foul.
Here, this is the comment censored, maybe that is an OK compromise so readers know what I considered crossing the line.
The comment in question was:
"I heard -------- is pregnant with --------------'s baby."
Atta boy SCAMS, hit the delete key every time you get a chance.
That habit of yours is why your site is a litterbox.
WHO BOUGHT YOU?
We know Hilton Central bought MPN by running duplicate legal ads in Post Papers, what did SCAMS sell out for?
Blogger babies?
Kathy Firkins is pregnant with John Auberger's love child. (ooh what a thought)
They did it on the wonderful floors her hubby put in at taxpayer expense
(please not this is not meant as a factual post but a satire of previous posts)
"I heard I am him is pregnant with I am not him's baby."
sounds more like Rosemary's baby!
Perhaps it is Joe Robach's.
He gets around
I think we all need to meet Dan Maloney at Romigs and get rip roaring drunk and take a deep breadth.
To 10:44AM ~~ I'll pass on that. It definitely sounds like YOU know what you're doing. Hope you have a designated driver!
""I think we all need to meet Dan Maloney at Romigs and get rip roaring drunk and take a deep breadth.""
Well that concept did work well for Tofany & Riley, Another Irish drunk might do wonders for the town.
Auberger likes beer I am told he has a big collection of beer cans etc.
Since he has a German background I guess does that make him okay and everyone else a drunk
5:06 pm.
Are you calling Dan Maloney a drunk? That's not even called for and has no business here.
12:08's comment is scummy too but unsurprising. You find alot of garbage like that on SCATS' blog. 12:08 must be a regular over there.
SCATS is ok with it though. He's all about posting the rumor/lie and disregarding the truth no matter who it hurts. Probably why so many think SCATS is a POS.
7:16 must be a regular over there too to know so much about what Scats does.
re 5:06
no you missed my point, It was just the opposite I was criticizing a previous poster who seemed to employ an ethnic stereotype.
I am a regular and I don't see posts like that. All the bitching about SCATS yet you keep sniffing the box.
All the b!tching about scats but they can't stop talking about him. Don't they call that an obsession?
"All the b!tching about scats but they can't stop talking about him. Don't they call that an obsession?"
Naw, more a community observation about about the stench from Mr Feline Pine's poorly maintained litterbox.
SCAMS the king of copy & paste sold out.
10:49 :what are you talking about sold out?to who?
10:49 kind of late when you need all that beauty rest... alot of it I suspect.
Yea Coffeestain, I have a perfect face for radio!
Notice how SCAMS ran from reporting Joe M's snotsnorting press conference?
Looked like the room was definitely crouded down there at the lodge, must have been at least 10 people.
I loved Joe explaining why he ran for School Board. Seemed to have a little problem keeping his son and granddaughter straight as he related the story.
DAMN, Joe even said he didn't think the Baloney Slate making a clean sweep was a good idea.
To the Night Poster at 2:53 a.m. - I definitely think you need a little sleep. Your postings have absolutely no content except your mean-spirited jabs. Let's talk about issues (I suspect you don't have any) and important things, not your sickening stabs that prove nothing except to paint you for the ignorant jerk you are.
Are you Uncle Rico from Monroe Rotting?
2:53 is too drunk to get his shows straight.
I bet 2:53am got arrested by Joe years ago and holds a vendetta. Typical for a lowlife jailbird
2:53 here Scammiepoo followers,
sorry but you're all WRONG.
Actually I've known Joey since around 65, one hell of a street cop, but hasn't got 2 clues about Town Government.
Joe is 1 clue smarter than Candidate Baloney though, and if Joe was running against the Hairburger I'd vote for Joe.
Now all you Candidate Baloney supporters can go back to pulling your little levers.
Note to Greece DemoCRAPS, get a slate of candidates that knows more than they ain't Republicans.
Didn't Moscato also work in the youth division?
If Auberger is so smart. Why are we in the terrible mess we are in.
The idea that he is an expert boggles the imagination. He ia buffon who both wants total power and is asleep at the wheel.
THE idea that other people know noting about town give is bluff. ordinary people take over give ll that time and get it right.
Joey commanded & formed the Marine Div, Youth Div, and Tactical as I recall. As previously said, Joey is one hell of a street cop with the talent to get things accomplished.
Joey is also honest enough to tell the truth, such as his statement he and Baloney don't know how Town Government works. As evidenced by statements coming from Baloney's mouth Baloney has never bothered to read NYS Municipal laws or learn how they regulate the powers of elected officials. Baloney should be fairly adept at Union law, but his statements indicate he falls short there too, or doesn't know most Greece employees are Union members.
Joe would be a good candidate for Supervisor, and will be a major pain in the ass to Hairburger if elected to Town Council. Joe will at least learn the job. Baloney will be an empty suit. Joe even said total victory for the Democraps might be a bad thing. 1 party control leads to tyrany.
The funding of this race by the Monroe County Democraps alone indicates the slate of candidates is a joke assembled to do nothing beyond embarras Hairburger & his munchkins. $400 to fund a Town Council race is an insult to Greece residents. Democraps have ridiculous candidates who aren't funded.
If you can;t criticize message
try ridicule
Thanks for importing Monroe rotting tactics into this discussion
Them or SCATS.
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